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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:30 am 
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So why don't we as forum brainstorm what ways males supporters of the overthrow the current government & abolishment of female slavery.

Remember the males in question don't need to join up with the FLF. They could join freedom fighter groups who unlike the FLF don't retardedly loudly announce that there political dissidents. I have some ideas but I want to see what some of the thoughts my fellow members of this community have first.

I look forward to see what ideas we can generate together. :D

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The problem that they would face is that Pussiania is not a "rogue state". It is acting in a manner prescribed by the United Nations so, whilst there are nations that will despise the nation and it's ideology,it is a legally (and arguably morally) acceptable form of governance. So unless some nation wants to declare war, or devote their intelligence services to the undermining of a nation state there is not much that individuals can do about it. Countries like the USA, UK or France may not like the way certain countries carry on but despite being permanent members of the U.N Security Council they rarely can do much about it.

So what could males do, fund raise to try and bribe dignitaries in "blue nations" to apply pressure. Use the political advantages of being male to work in ways and achieve things that no woman could. They after all have access to the political system but that would be difficult to manipulate in the favour of women.


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Well has you may or may not remember a while back you while we were discussing the course of action I would take if I found my self teleported in to the EU by some asshole wizard, you asked me this . . .

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Interesting idea but the following thread has a map of the E.C.U in geo-political terms where "Red" countries are pro CFSL and light blue are actively against it. Decide for yourself where the counter revolution will most hurt the red block.

[url]viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26[/url]

This map always made me chuckle because countries in the British Empire always used to appear in red in very old atlases


Well I finally have an answer and I think it also is a possible course of action the males supporters of the overthrow the Pussian government & the abolishment of female slavery.

Although this answer is contingent on two things. The first being weather or not a real proper leftist movement exist in the world of the EU or not. So be aware that the following answer we are going off the assumption there are no radical leftist movement in the EU

The second thing is that my theory then he continued industrialization of the planet reaching a point where there was no longer a Third World for the capitalist to exploit has a ultra cheep source of labor. Was the catalyst for the male superiority that eventually the way to the mandatory enslavment of women & replenish supply exploitable ultrachic labor, is in fact correct.

Anyway, to answer the question of what course of action that would take if some dickhead wizard teleported into the EC.

Well first thing is I would get myself the fucking hell out of Pussian and into one of the blue nations, which particular one would depend on factors that are currently unknown, but it would be in more yellow nation it borders the better. I'll get back to the reason for that in a bit.

Now what I would do once established some form of residence with a nation, is to began to set out to teach Marxism to the populous and convince them that crime against humanity that is female slavery is the result of the capitalist mood of prediction. That the inhumanly of enslavment of women across the world is thanks to the capitalist requiring greater exploration of labor in order to continue on it quest for ever-increasing prophet. That the only reason the bourgeoisie does joyfully r@pe you daughters, mutilate your sisters, and slowly ground your mothers into meat for there dogs. Is so that yourmay buy the goods produced by the human being they causally subject women just like those you hold dearest to you has we speak. Don't fool your self into entertaining the notion that the rich parasite have anything different planed for your loved ones the moment there no longer useful. . . .

. . . I would eventually start urging for forcefully of the state and the means of prediction.

No remember when I mentioned before that the more yeah I'm state the target of my communist instruction is bordering the better? Well the reason was becomes if I can successfully manage to bring about a armed uprising, then I can see a very high likelihood of revolution spilling over into the yellow county next to me things to do there less than stellar national security along with this State are experiencing exactly what I predicted in my rhetoric justifying the uprising.

Now assuming of course that I was successful usurping the old government and managed to not get kill off in the process. Then what would come next would depend heavily on with the landscape looks like when we properly taken power and in what when do we set up our new socialist state.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts.

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I think majority of the males in such a state would rebel anyway and overthrow the government. This is a fantasy universe not realistic. Even if they are not freedom loving folk, these men have loved ones, wives, daughters, nieces etc. so it is unlikely to keep this it running for more than a decade. If this knd of thing happens in real life, there would be civil war and eventually slavery would be abolished.


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Yeah, the all the 'successful' slave holding societies enslaved foreigners.

It's easy to enslave someone who can be seen as 'sub-human'; they look different and they don't even talk right!

Not so easy when you try to convince people it's okay to enslave Barbara in accounting.


(which is what makes it a fun fantasy, lets play)

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Blue Hat Man wrote:
Well has you may or may not remember a while back you while we were discussing the course of action I would take if I found my self teleported in to the EU by some asshole wizard, you asked me this . . .

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Interesting idea but the following thread has a map of the E.C.U in geo-political terms where "Red" countries are pro CFSL and light blue are actively against it. Decide for yourself where the counter revolution will most hurt the red block.

[url]viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26[/url]

This map always made me chuckle because countries in the British Empire always used to appear in red in very old atlases


Well I finally have an answer and I think it also is a possible course of action the males supporters of the overthrow the Pussian government & the abolishment of female slavery.

Although this answer is contingent on two things. The first being weather or not a real proper leftist movement exist in the world of the EU or not. So be aware that the following answer we are going off the assumption there are no radical leftist movement in the EU

The second thing is that my theory then he continued industrialization of the planet reaching a point where there was no longer a Third World for the capitalist to exploit has a ultra cheep source of labor. Was the catalyst for the male superiority that eventually the way to the mandatory enslavment of women & replenish supply exploitable ultrachic labor, is in fact correct.

Anyway, to answer the question of what course of action that would take if some dickhead wizard teleported into the EC.

Well first thing is I would get myself the fucking hell out of Pussian and into one of the blue nations, which particular one would depend on factors that are currently unknown, but it would be in more yellow nation it borders the better. I'll get back to the reason for that in a bit.

Now what I would do once established some form of residence with a nation, is to began to set out to teach Marxism to the populous and convince them that crime against humanity that is female slavery is the result of the capitalist mood of prediction. That the inhumanly of enslavment of women across the world is thanks to the capitalist requiring greater exploration of labor in order to continue on it quest for ever-increasing prophet. That the only reason the bourgeoisie does joyfully r@pe you daughters, mutilate your sisters, and slowly ground your mothers into meat for there dogs. Is so that yourmay buy the goods produced by the human being they causally subject women just like those you hold dearest to you has we speak. Don't fool your self into entertaining the notion that the rich parasite have anything different planed for your loved ones the moment there no longer useful. . . .

. . . I would eventually start urging for forcefully of the state and the means of prediction.

No remember when I mentioned before that the more yeah I'm state the target of my communist instruction is bordering the better? Well the reason was becomes if I can successfully manage to bring about a armed uprising, then I can see a very high likelihood of revolution spilling over into the yellow county next to me things to do there less than stellar national security along with this State are experiencing exactly what I predicted in my rhetoric justifying the uprising.

Now assuming of course that I was successful usurping the old government and managed to not get kill off in the process. Then what would come next would depend heavily on with the landscape looks like when we properly taken power and in what when do we set up our new socialist state.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts.

(:


You seem to be projecting your political views into the Erenisch world and acting as if Marxism/Communism is the only "perfect" way to go. Why is that?


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It is true, in-clan slavery is a rare thing, but gender oppression is a very common occurrence in human history. You just don't call it slavery, but tradition, good morals, or religion. I of course acknowledge that this is a very caricaturesque fantasy- but only because we know what we know. In an alternate history where traditions dictated a gender based caste structure, it wouldn't be so outrageous.

And fascist states are more endurable than we think. They generally last long unless in-fighting weakens it, or exogenous factors like wars destroy them. Franco, Slazar, Stalin lived long lives. Hitler and Mussolini would have too, if we didn't have enough howitzers.


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And fascist states are more endurable than we think. They generally last long unless in-fighting weakens it, or exogenous factors like wars destroy them. Franco, Slazar, Stalin lived long lives. Hitler and Mussolini would have too, if we didn't have enough howitzers.


Hitler would have lasted longer if he hadn't picked on the Soviet Union or at least distinguished between racial groups and specifically targetted Communists or promised liberation from Stalin. if he had done that he would have been in Moscow in weeks and probably with millions of Georgians, Ukrainians and Belarusians obliterating the Soviet superstructure before the Wehrmacht got close.


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hellyeahbro wrote:
Blue Hat Man wrote:
Well has you may or may not remember a while back you while we were discussing the course of action I would take if I found my self teleported in to the EU by some asshole wizard, you asked me this . . .

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Interesting idea but the following thread has a map of the E.C.U in geo-political terms where "Red" countries are pro CFSL and light blue are actively against it. Decide for yourself where the counter revolution will most hurt the red block.

[url]viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26[/url]

This map always made me chuckle because countries in the British Empire always used to appear in red in very old atlases


Well I finally have an answer and I think it also is a possible course of action the males supporters of the overthrow the Pussian government & the abolishment of female slavery.

Although this answer is contingent on two things. The first being weather or not a real proper leftist movement exist in the world of the EU or not. So be aware that the following answer we are going off the assumption there are no radical leftist movement in the EU

The second thing is that my theory then he continued industrialization of the planet reaching a point where there was no longer a Third World for the capitalist to exploit has a ultra cheep source of labor. Was the catalyst for the male superiority that eventually the way to the mandatory enslavment of women & replenish supply exploitable ultrachic labor, is in fact correct.

Anyway, to answer the question of what course of action that would take if some dickhead wizard teleported into the EC.

Well first thing is I would get myself the fucking hell out of Pussian and into one of the blue nations, which particular one would depend on factors that are currently unknown, but it would be in more yellow nation it borders the better. I'll get back to the reason for that in a bit.

Now what I would do once established some form of residence with a nation, is to began to set out to teach Marxism to the populous and convince them that crime against humanity that is female slavery is the result of the capitalist mood of prediction. That the inhumanly of enslavment of women across the world is thanks to the capitalist requiring greater exploration of labor in order to continue on it quest for ever-increasing prophet. That the only reason the bourgeoisie does joyfully r@pe you daughters, mutilate your sisters, and slowly ground your mothers into meat for there dogs. Is so that yourmay buy the goods produced by the human being they causally subject women just like those you hold dearest to you has we speak. Don't fool your self into entertaining the notion that the rich parasite have anything different planed for your loved ones the moment there no longer useful. . . .

. . . I would eventually start urging for forcefully of the state and the means of prediction.

No remember when I mentioned before that the more yeah I'm state the target of my communist instruction is bordering the better? Well the reason was becomes if I can successfully manage to bring about a armed uprising, then I can see a very high likelihood of revolution spilling over into the yellow county next to me things to do there less than stellar national security along with this State are experiencing exactly what I predicted in my rhetoric justifying the uprising.

Now assuming of course that I was successful usurping the old government and managed to not get kill off in the process. Then what would come next would depend heavily on with the landscape looks like when we properly taken power and in what when do we set up our new socialist state.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts.

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You seem to be projecting your political views into the Erenisch world and acting as if Marxism/Communism is the only "perfect" way to go. Why is that?


I'd be happy to answer your question but due to the size of your question it would be helpful if you could ask me some smaller questions about my political views so we have a place to start with. Although I would like to clarify that I do not see socialism and ideally co that I do not see socialism and idealy communism has perfect but I see them has a market improvement from he has perfect but I see them has a market improvement ftom are current system. As they say it perfect is the enemy of the good.

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Erenisch wrote:
It is true, in-clan slavery is a rare thing, but gender oppression is a very common occurrence in human history. You just don't call it slavery, but tradition, good morals, or religion. I of course acknowledge that this is a very caricaturesque fantasy- but only because we know what we know. In an alternate history where traditions dictated a gender based caste structure, it wouldn't be so outrageous.
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I agree with that. One thing that is most unrealistic is that men like to share their slaves in this universe. I beieve if it was more realistic the majority would just lock their women up. all slaves would be in chastity belts like the medieval times.


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I agree with that. One thing that is most unrealistic is that men like to share their slaves in this universe. I beieve if it was more realistic the majority would just lock their women up. all slaves would be in chastity belts like the medieval times.


I agreed with you entirely until the line about Medieval chastity belts. Which is a total myth. Sorry dude but they are the invention of an imaginative 19th Century German guy, though they may be based (according the wonderfully informative Q.I Book of General Ignorance) on a late 15th Century design from Florence for "Hard Iron breeches" found in a catalogue of military equipment.

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I think majority of the males in such a state would rebel anyway and overthrow the government. This is a fantasy universe not realistic. Even if they are not freedom loving folk, these men have loved ones, wives, daughters, nieces etc. so it is unlikely to keep this it running for more than a decade. If this knd of thing happens in real life, there would be civil war and eventually slavery would be abolished.


The revolution could've gone down in a way that allowed ample time for the men who didn't support female slavery to be able to get themselves and their loved ones ( especially female loved ones) out of the country. Maybe the reason there such an emphasis on breeding farms within EU is due to the post revolutionary government trying to quickly make up lost population of people who ditched during the uprising.

Anyway, please tell me what you think

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When I was looking back through some of my previous topic and I saw this one the answer to the topic and or title question immediately jumped out at me. Although I will be honest and admit that I have not even the slightest idea on why the hell the answer I'm about to share took me so long to have it occurred to me. :roll: Anyhow, I believe the most self evident answer to the question posed is having them act as a spy.

I'm curious what your thoughts are on this new line of thought on the subject.

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