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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:30 pm 
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There seems to be a consensus of sorts that "porn" is monolithic and always revolves around attractive women and dumb situations that provide think excuses for said women to have sex.

Not true. Certainly a plethora of examples exist to prove this contention, but there is also a plethora of examples that disprove it. Problem is that porn reenforcing existing stereotypes is likely to be seen as "typical" and that which departs from them is seen, if at all, as anomalous.

Actually, for some years now the trend in video and written porn has been away from pure hydraulics and toward more complex interactions leading up to sexual acts that intensify the experience of watching them. The rise of boutique producers like Girlfriends' Films and Sweetheart Productions (names E. could have invented) has basically dusted off the old Pizza Guy approach in sales and there's an obvious reason why.

After you've stuck every possible object in every possible orifice, where is there left to go? Nina frequently tells people that the last frontier for porn is feelings. That's certainly been my experience. All my work is driven by plot and character and the sex the players have both reflects their characters and advances the plot. The result is a picture with very little fast-forward material. And I don't use a ton of dialog to get the job done either. One of the things I learned from working with John Stagliano, the original gonzo guy, is that the sex tells the story. By the way you design the characters and create the circumstances, you determine the story the sex will tell. As profit margins have shrunk and budgets have collapsed, our already limited ability to tell stories by using sex on screen has diminished even further, creating the death-spiral in which the XXX DVD now finds itself.

It needn't have been that way. If you look back over the biggest selling X-rated video titles in recent years - such as Digital Playground's Pirates movies and for that matter my own Story-of-O-derived shows - you'll see that if we had made fewer movies, spent more on them and worked at creating products people wanted to watch all the way through on their home theater systems instead of wanking to on their computers monitors for fifteen minutes we'd still be competitive as an industry. Instead, it became a race to the bottom for the big companies and created the opening for small-scale projects that depend on dramatic elements to heighten the level of excitement. Granted that porn performers are not trained actors, given the right material and a director who clearly cares how its delivered, you'd be surprised at how much feeling good players can bring to a sex story.

I really believe one reason why XXX comics haven't taken the tremendous hit XXX video has in recent years is because that which sex comics offer - unique characters, situations and settings - cannot be stolen so easily for a five minute clip on a tube site. You really have to get onboard with the story or all the hot images, taken out of context, will cool considerably.

This is why Lovelust works so well. It gives us everything. It gives us a wealth of visual splendor, a complex and intriguing cast of characters with visible arcs through the story, a series of interlocking plot elements that both propel and are propelled by the sex and in the process creates a whole world of its own within the context of the E-Universe.

If there were a way to make it as a movie, which is hard to imagine under the current circumstances, I'd be negotiating for rights already.

There's a reason why Story of O has been continuously in print for sixty years. The hot kink-sex is certainly a factor but there's been lots of that since. It's the human emotion with which it's permeated that gives it its durable appeal.

Lovelust isn't just a sex comic, though I've nothing against those. It's a true graphic novel powered by sex, an artistic accomplishment deserving of every accolade it's getting here.


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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:35 am 
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Let me answer a few of the questions directed at me. Remind me if I miss any.


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Holy Cow. I just notice that we have just seen for the first time Sherry with out her hair thingy. E did you do that for me?

Well, not entirely... If you look at that page, you see that Sherry's head is always seen from angles where the hair thingy is not easily visible. Drawing it on would be problematic visually. So I did put the unused band on the nightstand instead. It was a technical necessity in this particular case. But I knew then that you'd be the first to notice it. :)


E you just reminded of Paul just now. You start by making me not feel very important then give me a compliment at the end. :)

I was going to ask you about the "Freewoman Please don't r@pe me" underwear and if I gave you the idea but since it didn't electric cute potential rapers I decided that you did not.

I find it ironic, i think is the correct word, that how in BG9 Tawnie ask Maggie if she can wear clothes. Maggie at the time is getting dress. In this episode Tawnie is fully clothed while Maggie is walking around naked. However, it seems Maggie walks around naked by choice. As earlier she rips off her shirt.

Is that a coincidence or was it planned?

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dougeee wrote:
Erenisch wrote:
Let me answer a few of the questions directed at me. Remind me if I miss any.

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Holy Cow. I just notice that we have just seen for the first time Sherry with out her hair thingy. E did you do that for me?

Well, not entirely... If you look at that page, you see that Sherry's head is always seen from angles where the hair thingy is not easily visible. Drawing it on would be problematic visually. So I did put the unused band on the nightstand instead. It was a technical necessity in this particular case. But I knew then that you'd be the first to notice it. :)


E you just reminded of Paul just now. You start by making me not feel very important then give me a compliment at the end. :)

:D Not entirely means at least partially, no? Your remarks certainly had an impact on the decision.

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I was going to ask you about the "Freewoman Please don't r@pe me" underwear and if I gave you the idea but since it didn't electric cute potential rapers I decided that you did not.

I have an idea sheet full of these - I can no longer keep track of which one I come up with myself, and which one is a result of outside inspiration.

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I find it ironic, i think is the correct word, that how in BG9 Tawnie ask Maggie if she can wear clothes. Maggie at the time is getting dress. In this episode Tawnie is fully clothed while Maggie is walking around naked. However, it seems Maggie walks around naked by choice. As earlier she rips off her shirt.

Is that a coincidence or was it planned?

Not a coincidence, but it has nothing to do with Tawnie or any other slave. I needed Maggie to be naked and vulnerable in her scene with Paul, who was fully dressed and in dark, gloomy colors. So Maggie's clothes were conveniently ripped off before that. :)


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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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I have to say that I'm very thankful for the extraordinarily long and detailed praise posted by otherguy, ernestgreene, bangerman and others. I could not properly respond to them because they are exceedingly flattering (I even came to the brink of an ego orgasm with Otherguy's review :P)...


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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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I was going to ask you about the "Freewoman Please don't r@pe me" underwear and if I gave you the idea but since it didn't electric cute potential rapers I decided that you did not.


I'm pretty sure the men on the product review board for the government who happen to like hot girls would probably ban that pretty quick.


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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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I was going to ask you about the "Freewoman Please don't r@pe me" underwear and if I gave you the idea but since it didn't electric cute potential rapers I decided that you did not.


I'm pretty sure the men on the product review board for the government who happen to like hot girls would probably ban that pretty quick.

It's just a product to sell to free women so they'll have less to go toward their freedom fees. 8-)


(it also only says 'please', there is no obligation to follow it's instructions) :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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Oh, I don't mind the writing. I was just referring to the electric part. If it was referring to real electricity that would shock you if you tried to pull them off then you'd have to wear special protective gloves to do it and that would just get annoying. Better to make sure the chicks don't have access to such things.


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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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I really can't praise this comic enough. Christ, it's fun to be a fan of something as strange and new and sexy as these books.

"Go do slave stuff" is about the best line of dialogue I've ever seen in porn, and trust me - I take in a lot of porn.


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I really can't praise this comic enough. Christ, it's fun to be a fan of something as strange and new and sexy as these books.

"Go do slave stuff" is about the best line of dialogue I've ever seen in porn, and trust me - I take in a lot of porn.


I wonder if Sherry had he courage to go back to the basement after that line. Just before that scene she bragged about all the things she was getting, then to have them stripped away. I bet she didn't go back to the basement or talk to Tawnie for the rest of the day. Tawnie's a good girl she would have put herself back in the locker.

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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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I was going to ask you about the "Freewoman Please don't r@pe me" underwear and if I gave you the idea but since it didn't electric cute potential rapers I decided that you did not.


I'm pretty sure the men on the product review board for the government who happen to like hot girls would probably ban that pretty quick.

It's just a product to sell to free women so they'll have less to go toward their freedom fees. 8-)


(it also only says 'please', there is no obligation to follow it's instructions) :twisted:


You are missing the point though. It does not say "don't r@pe me". It says "Don't r@pe".... It is "the state" speaking. The state does not condone r@ping of freewomen. They promote legal trade of females.


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 Post subject: Re: BG10: Lovelust
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In this comic you have yet another female slave fantasizing about killing her master. I'd like to offer the men of the Erensich world a real life solution to that problem. In the Roman Empire they had a rule that if a slave killed their master, all the slaves of the household were put to death. The reason for this was that if a slave overheard another slave plotting to kill the master, the first slave would know that if the plot succeeded, the first slave would be killed even though they weren't part of the plot. This would motivate the first slave to tell the master who would then kill the second slave. This setup helped the citizens of Rome by convincing the slaves to spy on each other.


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In this comic you have yet another female slave fantasizing about killing her master. I'd like to offer the men of the Erensich world a real life solution to that problem. In the Roman Empire they had a rule that if a slave killed their master, all the slaves of the household were put to death. The reason for this was that if a slave overheard another slave plotting to kill the master, the first slave would know that if the plot succeeded, the first slave would be killed even though they weren't part of the plot. This would motivate the first slave to tell the master who would then kill the second slave. This setup helped the citizens of Rome by convincing the slaves to spy on each other.


Why do you doubt that such a rule exists now? If you remember the conversation between Kim and the bossto Sluts in Training 1 and his casual dismissal about her covering executions because they are;-

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Bo-o-o-ring!There's an execution every night now. They are frying those pretty little sluts like there is no tomorrow. . Such a waste of good pussy if you ask me


This line can be read two ways, either the murder rate in Pussiana is off the charts and males are getting bumped off left right and centre by irate slaves, in which case the Revolution would collapse pretty quickly.

OR

The rule you suggest is in force and a lot of the executions are for "Conspiracy to murder a Master" which translates as being sister slave to the murderess. If they are being particularly legalistic about it, they could probably have it count as Treason anyway


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Bitch Beater wrote:
In this comic you have yet another female slave fantasizing about killing her master. I'd like to offer the men of the Erensich world a real life solution to that problem. In the Roman Empire they had a rule that if a slave killed their master, all the slaves of the household were put to death. The reason for this was that if a slave overheard another slave plotting to kill the master, the first slave would know that if the plot succeeded, the first slave would be killed even though they weren't part of the plot. This would motivate the first slave to tell the master who would then kill the second slave. This setup helped the citizens of Rome by convincing the slaves to spy on each other.

Yes, and it actually goes back to ancient Egypt. When a king died, all his slaves were put to death and buried with him (natural death included). That served two purposes: 1) as you said, it linked the slave's well being to that of the king's, so they would serve and protect him "with their lives". 2) transition of power is smoother that way. When the new king takes over, he wouldn't trust the old "administrative staff" to serve him loyally and efficiently, so off they go..
(We came a long way. Our leaders are not killed but deposed, and all the administration is deposed with him/her. Now we are symbolically sacrificing them with their leader :D)

Fun fact, in my original vision, I had that rule. I actually used it in my private comics, but it came with a problem. I would lose a lot of good characters because I wanted to kill a guy. That would put unnecessary constraints on the creative process, so I discarded it in this reality.


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Why do you doubt that such a rule exists now? If you remember the conversation between Kim and the bossto Sluts in Training 1 and his casual dismissal about her covering executions because they are;-

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Bo-o-o-ring!There's an execution every night now. They are frying those pretty little sluts like there is no tomorrow. . Such a waste of good pussy if you ask me


This line can be read two ways, either the murder rate in Pussiana is off the charts and males are getting bumped off left right and centre by irate slaves, in which case the Revolution would collapse pretty quickly.

OR

The rule you suggest is in force and a lot of the executions are for "Conspiracy to murder a Master" which translates as being sister slave to the murderess. If they are being particularly legalistic about it, they could probably have it count as Treason anyway


Slaves kill their masters, sure... It is the master's responsibility to use safeguards. If you do not trust a slave, then use chains, shackles and cages.

A lot of crimes that seem minor to us requires capital punishment in this universe. Removal of the slave choker, anyone? That is why Kim's boss was "bored".


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(We came a long way. Our leaders are not killed but deposed, and all the administration is deposed with him/her. Now we are symbolically sacrificing them with their leader :D) .


Good point, but if you think about it, the civil 'servants' remain so the boss and his mates are sacrificed but those who do the hard work continue.

Replying to the point about Dominicide (Killing of masters?) my point was it cannot be that common because it inspired boredom not mortal terror of the chokered threat. Also it wasn't Kim who was bored by it (am I correcting E on one of his/her/their comics?) but her boss who was happily maltreating a slave girl when we first see him. The threat clearly didn't seem that great to him

From an in universwe perspective removal of slaver choker can easily be seen to be a horrific crime, alas from our perspective I appear dangerously psychotic for even understanding such an extreme viewpoint Oh bugger!


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Also it wasn't Kim who was bored by it (am I correcting E on one of his/her/their comics?) !

I actually ninja'd you with the correction, so it does not count. :D

I like the word dominicide. The reverse would be servicide, I guess... Adopted!


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I think I caught a Forrest Gump reference in this one. Smart is as Smart does... Stupid is as Stupid does.

Also E you missed out on a Maggie in Space scene... The video game could have taken placed on the moon and therefore Maggie would have been in space.

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I think I caught a Forrest Gump reference in this one. Smart is as Smart does... Stupid is as Stupid does.

Also E you missed out on a Maggie in Space scene... The video game could have taken placed on the moon and therefore Maggie would have been in space.

Ah that's an awesome idea. Missed opportunity :lol:


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I think I caught a Forrest Gump reference in this one. Smart is as Smart does... Stupid is as Stupid does.

That's right. There was one in Karma too...

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Also E you missed out on a Maggie in Space scene... The video game could have taken placed on the moon and therefore Maggie would have been in space.

If only I could go back in time. That was a perfect opportunity for fan-service. :D

You gotta wait for Carrot Hunt 2: Terror Carrots from Outer Space!


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I take back my previous comment about Shakespeare... He could never write something this hot! :)

I liked this a lot, it had some great scenes with Carol finally getting some TLC and finding she enjoys it more than she wants to admit. She basically sells her own daughter down the river by trading Maggies bottom for her own pleasure when Peter asks where she would prefer to take it.

And the last smile from hearing Paul remembering her birthday was interesting: Does he actually care about her like Peter cares about Maggie? Did Carols smile mean she was grateful for his attention? Or did she smile because she thinks she might have found a weakness for her to exploit?

Flipping brilliant episode! :)


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