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The recall clause seems at odds with the idea that a slave cannot be freed. Wasn't that the point of BG8?

Given that we know the BFA doesn't want men to enslave their own daughters, it would seem odd to give such an easy loophole.

Addendum c reads "The slave band can only be removed by the request of the owner of the slave."


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The recall clause seems at odds with the idea that a slave cannot be freed. Wasn't that the point of BG8?

Given that we know the BFA doesn't want men to enslave their own daughters, it would seem odd to give such an easy loophole.

Addendum c reads "The slave band can only be removed by the request of the owner of the slave."

Nice catch. Legislation is needed to clarify this Recall Clause.

Possible ways to deal with the recall. : 1) Recalled slave is not freed, but considered a discarded slave and then "adopted" by the original CMR (like in the Bottom) 2) Enslavement is not reversed but annulled, so technically she is not "freed". 3) Slave becomes original CMR's slave, which could be a legal loophole CMRs use for tax evasion. In this case BFA fines the CMR and raises the slavetax to match the freedom fee or higher.
I'm leaning towards the third option. Any other ideas?

I think the neck-band addendum is clear enough, but of course fluent legalese-speakers among you could help me make it sound better rounded. Obviously I'm not a lawyer.


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Option 3 is obviously the one the State would prefer as it puts the most money in their pockets. :roll:

I always read the addendum about removing the collar only being invoked in cases of needing to replace the collar, like if it broke/wore out or the Master wanted to upgrade to a 'designer' collar like Carol wore in her poster. :geek:

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Enslavement is irreversible. I thought I established that with several hints in the stories already. In case you missed them, or it was not very clear, here is the rule: An ordinary slave cannot be freed. A slaveband cannot be permanently removed. A slave cannot be erased from the BFA registry.

The one exception is the retired Slavecops, who earn a five-year immunity at the age of 30.


Yes but that is why it is so interesting. Under what exceptional circumstances could this happen? There is always a way and if somebody made a law saying one thing what would it take for a loophole to be inserted and why.

Could they be awarded the Slavecop exemption as an admisistrative method?

I could imagine a twin brother wanting to protect his younger twin sister so perhaps that is the basis of his crusade? A little grease to aid the system?

Perhaps the system could be hacked so as to say they were never enslaved?

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SlaveLover wrote:
The recall clause seems at odds with the idea that a slave cannot be freed. Wasn't that the point of BG8?

Given that we know the BFA doesn't want men to enslave their own daughters, it would seem odd to give such an easy loophole.

Addendum c reads "The slave band can only be removed by the request of the owner of the slave."

Nice catch. Legislation is needed to clarify this Recall Clause.

Possible ways to deal with the recall. : 1) Recalled slave is not freed, but considered a discarded slave and then "adopted" by the original CMR (like in the Bottom) 2) Enslavement is not reversed but annulled, so technically she is not "freed". 3) Slave becomes original CMR's slave, which could be a legal loophole CMRs use for tax evasion. In this case BFA fines the CMR and raises the slavetax to match the freedom fee or higher.
I'm leaning towards the third option. Any other ideas?

I think the neck-band addendum is clear enough, but of course fluent legalese-speakers among you could help me make it sound better rounded. Obviously I'm not a lawyer.


I'd go with option 2 because then the CMR would have to backpay the Freedom Fees which I think are higher than the Slave Tax.

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Could they be awarded the Slavecop exemption as an admisistrative method?

I could imagine a twin brother wanting to protect his younger twin sister so perhaps that is the basis of his crusade? A little grease to aid the system?

Perhaps the system could be hacked so as to say they were never enslaved?

Yes but these are not not legal ways or loopholes. These are crimes


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Could they be awarded the Slavecop exemption as an admisistrative method?

I could imagine a twin brother wanting to protect his younger twin sister so perhaps that is the basis of his crusade? A little grease to aid the system?

Perhaps the system could be hacked so as to say they were never enslaved?

Yes but these are not not legal ways or loopholes. These are crimes


Being awarded the slavecop exemption as an administrative method would not be a crime as it is an administrative way of applying something. It's just the easiest way of doing something. Perhaps as a reward for a certain act it could be bestowed. Spooks might have a need for it and have a legal right to promise it but the government wouldn't want it showing and so hide it as 'SC exempt.'

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I hope I don't cause E to change the entire story around if I am right, but my thoughts: I think it would be neat if Sherry became Peter's slave again for his business. Sherry is smart and it would make a lot of sense to put her in that role. That would also give her the ability to be around Maggie again which would make both of them happy. Also I'm sure Peter REALLY wouldn't hate it if the two were doing each other, but of course he would have to pretend he hates it just to give them a good whooping.


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I don't know. Peter already has Maggie who is a smart math wiz, and a spunky accountant slave. I don't think Sherry can offer much here. In Paul's company she has a future though. The manager woman can train her as her protege. in BG8 Sherry says that she wants to be a businesswoman.


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man the peeps at dofantasy.com are taking their sweet time in releasing this one

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I hope I don't cause E to change the entire story around if I am right, but my thoughts: I think it would be neat if Sherry became Peter's slave again for his business. Sherry is smart and it would make a lot of sense to put her in that role. That would also give her the ability to be around Maggie again which would make both of them happy. Also I'm sure Peter REALLY wouldn't hate it if the two were doing each other, but of course he would have to pretend he hates it just to give them a good whooping.


i'm just speculating here:

if E decides to increase story time on the Paul + Carol relationship, Sherry becoming Peter's slave again somehow would be a viable plot twist

but as it is now though - there is too much build up between Paul and Sherry for it to be dropped

if anything - something more should be happening with Gwen

she has almost no role and direction in the series atm


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man the peeps at dofantasy.com are taking their sweet time in releasing this one

geesh...


Aren't they though? Refreshing the page every few hours! :oops:


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OMG yes... But the shopping cart button links to "the bottom"... :roll:
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