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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:05 am 
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Erenisch wrote:
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And I think a fair representation of Erenisch's work, along those separate continua, would be something like this:

Not pornographic --/------------------ Extremely pornographic
Not artistic -/------------------- Extremely artistic

You either have a very low opinion of my work, or our visual graphicl senses are not in synch :D


Ascii is not great for visual representations of data.

The top line represents 90% pornographic content. The second line represents 95% artistic content. The slash is a divider, not a notch.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:43 pm 
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Erenisch wrote:
On art/porn debate, as flattered as I am, I will refrain from placing my own work on some kind of spectrum. Art is a very relative thing. One might compare a Mondrian to cheap wallpaper, wile the other sees elementary beauty in it. Neither would be essentially wrong. Personally if I discern intelligence and passion in a work, and if it has a significant emotional impact on me, I consider it art (in the narrower sense).


I always like the Art/Entertainment debate.

Entertainment passes the time. Art motivates you to do something. Usually think and/or talk about it but on more than a passing level.

Its amazing how a lot of reality entertainment motivates a lot of people to talk about it but then I wouldn't call Big Brother art. Art can impel sacrifice. I.e. I must part with money to buy this. Going online and tweeting is not usually a sacrifice.

As you say its the emotional impact that makes art well Art!

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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:26 pm 
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m113 wrote:
Erenisch wrote:
On art/porn debate, as flattered as I am, I will refrain from placing my own work on some kind of spectrum. Art is a very relative thing. One might compare a Mondrian to cheap wallpaper, wile the other sees elementary beauty in it. Neither would be essentially wrong. Personally if I discern intelligence and passion in a work, and if it has a significant emotional impact on me, I consider it art (in the narrower sense).


I always like the Art/Entertainment debate.

Entertainment passes the time. Art motivates you to do something. Usually think and/or talk about it but on more than a passing level.

Its amazing how a lot of reality entertainment motivates a lot of people to talk about it but then I wouldn't call Big Brother art. Art can impel sacrifice. I.e. I must part with money to buy this. Going online and tweeting is not usually a sacrifice.

As you say its the emotional impact that makes art well Art!


Lets play with this idea for a minute a see where it takes u. :)
I think a lot of the "what is art" debate has been influenced over the years by the effects of censorship. The Catholic Church declared sex was sinful, so art referencing sex was was censored. In an environment like that ANY depiction of a naked body was rendered sexual and therefore forbidden.

Which is really bizarre because if there is one thing evolution has wired humans to be interested in, its naked human bodies and sex. So you might say that sex is the original purpose behind all art. And any attempts to make art nonsexual were just attempts to slide past clueless censors.

I would argue the earliest form of art was when primitive humans beat drums and danced around the fire. And why do you think cavemen learned to beat drums and keep rhythm? Because they realized the drums cast a magic spell on the cave women and made them shake their asses around and want to fuck. I think that was the birth of all music.

For whatever reason those beating drums triggered our primaral urges. it triggered something in our programing activated an instinct.

I think thats what art is, some collection of stimuli that for whatever reason, seemingly by magic pulls a reaction out of us. Triggers some old instinct deep inside of us that we don't understand. The art makes us want to fuck or want to fight or want to run or want to sleep, some basic primal urge that the animal inside us understands.

If it makes us feel something, then heck, it must be art. 8-)

Then of course there is the question of whether any art is truly GOOD art, or if its all just art that one person happens to LIKE, but thats a different conversation.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:56 pm 
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Getting back to discussing the issue...

I LOVE the look on Holly's face when she says to go ahead with the gang attack on her!

A realist, that one.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 4:40 pm 
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Spaz wrote:
Getting back to discussing the issue...

I LOVE the look on Holly's face when she says to go ahead with the gang attack on her!

A realist, that one.


yeah, I agree. Also not enough has been said about facial expressions in this issue yet. They continue to be great. Holly's expressions in that scene convey a great mix of being super pissed and trying to display bravado, there are some very expressive pictures in there.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
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with facial expressions my favorite are mostly Sherry's. The boardroom scenes are prefect, but I also liked her pouting expression in Holly's office.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
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I will also emphasize the number of panels in this comic. I counted 301 panels.

latest three comics

The Office 301 panels
The Bottom 265
Lovelust 300


now compare to older comics:

BG1 189
Roommates 173



(of course panel number is not everything. For example BG8 has 199 panels, but most of them are very big crowded scenes maybe more complex than any other comic)


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:28 pm 
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Panels aren't really a measurement of anything though. The closest equivalent would be cuts in a movie/tv scene.

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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:00 pm 
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Yeah but it shows the trend in E's style. You can also say the same thing about page numbers. I'm glad we are having more panels in the laterst comics, means we get more pages in a sense. More E comics bang for our buck.


One thing I noticed is the increasing number of small panels with focus on faces and facial expressions. These are easy to fit in without causing a lot of space problems.

I wonder what is the page count in other artists comics.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:05 pm 
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Here's something that I found quite meaningful in my own career as a pornographic picture maker and writer and who does consider his work art of a certain kind.

From one of the best directors I've ever known:

"The sex IS the story. The story is told through the sex itself."

Sound familiar?


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:28 am 
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I think I found an error actually. The intro to the book says "the year is 2022" buts wrong isn't it?

The slave law passed in 2022, the books are set in 2037.

I think Dofantasy messed up the intro. They often to the same thing, (get the year of the stories wrong) for the blurbs on the website.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:53 am 
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That's right. My original text started with "in the year 2022", wanted to give it a sci-fi/fantasy feel. Apparently they didn't like it and changed it into this, which is completely misleading. I think whoever edited BG4 was responsible for the change, as the comics before that have my original beginning. (They made some other small changes to text, but I really don't mind. There might be some legal reason for those)

The comics are set in 2037-2038, 15 years after the revolution/CFSL.


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:03 am 
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Erenisch wrote:
That's right. My original text started with "in the year 2022", wanted to give it a sci-fi/fantasy feel. Apparently they didn't like it and changed it into this, which is completely misleading. I think whoever edited BG4 was responsible for the change, as the comics before that have my original beginning. (They made some other small changes to text, but I really don't mind. There might be some legal reason for those)

The comics are set in 2037-2038, 15 years after the revolution/CFSL.



Yet another reason DoFantasy badly needs my editing skills back, lol. Its destiny. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
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what is the mean of the blue choker?

and Why Venger doens't get off her choker?


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:30 pm 
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I finally got the comic and read it a couple times yesterday. It was worth the wait. Awesome episode with yummy characters. Sherry embraces her inner bitch more and becomes even more complex and conflicted. I loved it.

Some great ideas many of them you guys already mentioned

The american pyscho card
dilbert
cab driver woman (must do a cameo. Everybody needs a taxi)
The cuntwarmers
mandatory boobjobs
The dildo in jello
The typerider slaves
Mr White hogging the copy machine/copy girl
Suzie Creamcheese
fucscheets
motivational postes
doorknob slaves
Happy flogging time with Trudy
Sherry shaking her ass in mens faces
Hollys painting hobby and girl slapping hobby
The intern's ID photo, looks like it was taken after a facial.
THE TRANSPARENT DRESS
and everything sherry does in the comic.
The surprise end scene was a brilliant idea.



My favorite joke on page 37:
Holly: "you should be glad that I dont have a longer name"


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 Post subject: Re: The Office
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Hey Gat we missed you!


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what is the mean of the blue choker?

and Why Venger doens't get off her choker?


welcome 14tlrks,

The blue band is a retirement reward given to Slavecops after 12 year service. They can wear it for 5 years during which no man can enslave them.
Here is the wiki page: http://www.erenischcomics.com/ewiki/index.php?title=Blue_band

Holly was the first retired slavecop we saw in comics. She first appeared in The Hotel. Later we also saw Diana in Slavecop 2.

I think she can't take it off, it has a time lock or something. It is not on the wiki but I remember reading something like that here or on the old forum.


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Nobody has yet mentioned the 'Miss Yummycunt' bobble-head on that one girls desk...

What else has E put in there that no one has mentioned yet?


(and why is there no wiki page for the bobble-head?) 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: The Office
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(and why is there no wiki page for the bobble-head?) 8-)

Hey, don't you have a wiki account?


Ask not what the Wiki can do for you, ask what you can do for the Wiki...


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Erenisch wrote:
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(and why is there no wiki page for the bobble-head?) 8-)

Hey, don't you have a wiki account?


Ask not what the Wiki can do for you, ask what you can do for the Wiki...

I keep forgetting my login... :oops:

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Dr. White wrote:
Erenisch wrote:
Dr. White wrote:
(and why is there no wiki page for the bobble-head?) 8-)

Hey, don't you have a wiki account?


Ask not what the Wiki can do for you, ask what you can do for the Wiki...

I keep forgetting my login... :oops:


me too! :oops:


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