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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:38 am 
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I dont want to pile up on otherguy but I really dont think that Annas existence and victory over Steven damages the consistency of the erenischverse. Like Rufus said there are examples of female crime and I actually want to see more of those so we can have a comic with the Female Liberation Front in it. I want to see the fluffers fight the slavecops. They will eventually be captured and tortured of course but to make it more interesting some females must "win" in the first few pages. I think with the Anna scene, it is now possible to see that kind of a storyline.

I agree with Rufus in his comments about steve being disposable. There may be people who root for him, but not that many. If you think about it he never became interesting enough. Even in BG4 where he has the biggest role, he was just a sidekick. I was a little bummed to see Peter let him get Gwen. Thankfully, that mistake was corrected in BG7. I dont know how much of the plot E plans ahead, but I think Steve's death sentence was given in BG7, when he stole his best buddys girlfriend. Thats a big no-no in the erenischverse if you look at the law.

I do not think that Peter is really a lot richer than Steve. Steve has the means to buy all that torture equipment and build a soundproof dungeon just to "entertain" Anna.. He also was able to pay taxes for two slavegirls, and he was rich enough to lose one of them in a bet. And remember that everybody was impressed by Steves ponycart (nobody else had one except Peter apparently). also, I have to mention that his family got a big house and cool sports-car. So I dont agree that Steve was a the poor underdog here. He was definitely richer than Jeff, and many other boys who didnt even have one slave.

I also do not think that he was really ugly. The only characters who call Steve ugly were Anna and Gwen. Anna was just teasing him for the fun of it and Gwen was just comparing him to her fantasy prince. She was full of herself and she thought she deserved better.


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I always thought that Steve's family was rich, but just not in Peter's family league. Which would mean he had issues with his self-worth compared to Peter. It's sort of like the game of one-upmanship that the rich play with each other. I have a better car (or fleet of cars). I have a better yacht. I have a better slave-pulled chariot. Etc., etc., etc. It's probably a problem with the lack of feeling for satiety. Steve has (or had) it in spades, while Jeff is happy with what he enjoys.

(Or maybe it's just destiny and the little prick needed to be removed from life so everyone else could breathe easier - either way works. :mrgreen: )

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There may be people who root for him, but not that many.


We've already heard from three or four, as opposed to, what, four or five who said they disliked him? Sweeping generalizations here, on the basis of little or no evidence. Cognitive dissonance has you seeing evidence as you want to see it. (I don't only mean you, gatolica, there was someone upthread who made a universal statement, suggesting there was no one who wanted to see Steve win.)

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The only characters who call Steve ugly were Anna and Gwen. Anna was just teasing him for the fun of it and Gwen was just comparing him to her fantasy prince. She was full of herself and she thought she deserved better.


Gwen's mother Regina referred to Steve as "that ugly boy," and she had none of that.


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I dont want to pile up on otherguy but I really dont think that Annas existence and victory over Steven damages the consistency of the erenischverse. Like Rufus said there are examples of female crime and I actually want to see more of those so we can have a comic with the Female Liberation Front in it. I want to see the fluffers fight the slavecops. They will eventually be captured and tortured of course but to make it more interesting some females must "win" in the first few pages. I think with the Anna scene, it is now possible to see that kind of a storyline.

I agree with Rufus in his comments about steve being disposable. There may be people who root for him, but not that many. If you think about it he never became interesting enough. Even in BG4 where he has the biggest role, he was just a sidekick. I was a little bummed to see Peter let him get Gwen. Thankfully, that mistake was corrected in BG7. I dont know how much of the plot E plans ahead, but I think Steve's death sentence was given in BG7, when he stole his best buddys girlfriend. Thats a big no-no in the erenischverse if you look at the law.

I do not think that Peter is really a lot richer than Steve. Steve has the means to buy all that torture equipment and build a soundproof dungeon just to "entertain" Anna.. He also was able to pay taxes for two slavegirls, and he was rich enough to lose one of them in a bet. And remember that everybody was impressed by Steves ponycart (nobody else had one except Peter apparently). also, I have to mention that his family got a big house and cool sports-car. So I dont agree that Steve was a the poor underdog here. He was definitely richer than Jeff, and many other boys who didnt even have one slave.

I also do not think that he was really ugly. The only characters who call Steve ugly were Anna and Gwen. Anna was just teasing him for the fun of it and Gwen was just comparing him to her fantasy prince. She was full of herself and she thought she deserved better.


@gatolica, no pile-on interpreted, you are free to disagree with me, thats what makes conversations on this forum so great! But as Someonelse pointed out, just because YOU feel a certain way does not make it the majority view, be careful about making these sweeping statements like "maybe a few think this, but that majority think that". When you assume you make an ass of you and me. You speak only for yourself, we will have to wait for other comments to find out what the majority thinks. So far the responses seems to be evenly split between people who were rooting for Steve in some way, people who were rooting against him and people who didn't care.

As for Steve being fat and ugly, I think it has been stated enough times by enough characters that Steve is fat and ugly for it to be true. Steve is "porn-ugly" or "E-verse ugly." He's really not bad looking by the standards of our universe, but since everyone in the E-verse is incredibly attractive, he is about as bad as it gets.

It never occured to me Steve was rich, you make an interesting point about him being able to pay the Slave tax on 2 slaves. Can some one get some clarification or proof one way or another on this? I figured that he was poor because:
A. He was always jealous of how rich Peter was
B. Everytime we see the inside of his house in previous issues it looked dirty and disheveled (not as much in BG 9)
C. He was the last one of his friends to get a slave, so I figured he couldn't afford it
D. He complained about how expensive it was to feed his 2 slaves when talking on the phone with Peter

Finally about Steve being disposable, I would argue that he had a more fleshed out personality than almost any other male character. Steve had insecurities and flaws, he actually had more depth than almost anyone else we have seen at school. Compare Steve to someone like Jack, who is just stock-jock character, Steve is much more developed. Even Jeff just seems to be a regular "nerdy, nice guy" adapted for the E-verse, Seve had flaws and flaws make for interesting stories and realistic characters. Also Steve was one of the primary movers of the plot, he was the one who wanted to kidnap Gwen, the tension between him and Anna made their scenes interesting. He was the one who bet Gwen and he was the one who kidnapped Anna. BG4, and 7 are driven mostly by his actions.

Nonetheless, killing him has stirred up controversy and interest, so it was a home run from E's point of view.

I will add another thing, which is that I just don't like "Sn**f" stories (porn about killing people). My limits are Sn**f, incest and scat. I guess I am a more "wholesome, old fashioned" pervert. I do not particularly like it when any of the characters die, male or female, in the stories I masturbate to.


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Not really a sweeping statement. Thats just the sense I get from the discussions. I have been around the forum for a while and I got the feeling that Steve is not the most popular of male characters. Again Im a girl and I dont think that all males should win in this world because they are males. Every character is different and I like or hate them for it.


I also dont think this counts as Sn**f. We never see the act of killing, the dead body or any blood.


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I'm not a girl but I have no problem with girls winning short term victories here.

Getting away from the "who said what about who" approach that seems to be dogging this thread, I would like to suggest that it is actually one sense that it is a great pity that BG 9 ended the way it did.

I mean, seen from that "certain point of view" that Ben Kenobi used to such effect in Return of the Jedi Steve and Anna were ideal soul mates. He is a jealous, angry sadist with serious relationship issues and she is a manipulative psychopath. What a relationship!
Boy meets girl.
Boy takes a real dislike to Girl,
Girl goes out of her way to insult and demean Boy.
Boy kidnaps and tortures Girl.
Girl mutilates, murders and burns house down around Boy.

Love stories should be written about that :lol:


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Just what I need girl gets revenge Sn**f crap.
Sorry just not interested in it. :roll:


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All right, now I will do some fake science for fun :D

I remember that Anna thread at the old forum was one of the most popular by count of replies. (202 replies, just trailing behind Maggie with 232, and leading Sherry with 196). There was also other topic on where she was from (53more replies). It does not mean she was a "liked" character but definitely a fascinating one. This thread is another evidence of it.

People hated Anna. I remember in the old forum or the dof forum people were talking about not buying the next erenisch comic if Anna is in there. A weird notion if you ask me. It is like not reading superman if there is kryptonite in there. (Kudos to E for not listening to them btw).

Only Peter had a topic in the old forum, and Paul has one here. In the main "meanest master in the erenischverse" topic Steve is mentioned only once or twice (by Lord Wotan who is obsessed with Anna ;) ) So liked or not, he was not in the spotlight.

Okay that's the amount of scientific reseearch I can do at this late hour. Now for my closing opinions:

I think the ending was good. Actually maybe the best of all endings so far. It is E in her/his best at storytelling. Someone else mentioned this, Anna's attitude, facial expressions and dialogue was top notch. Creepy and sexy. A true psycho forged by a long torture. I was shocked. And I loved it. Sorry if some you boys went "huh?" in mid-jerk off. I was done myself by then. :mrgreen:

Just a girl's opininon. :)

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Thanks for the analysis samantha. :geek:

I guess in the E-verse Anna would be considered the ultimate monster (in that society anyway). I've always loved stories where the humans where more horrible and scary then any monster we could dream up. Reminds me of some Twilight Zone episodes for some reason. I think Anna's placement in the story was really well done as first the femme fatale and then the badass, testicle receding, what she did to Steve, horror that she is now.

I'm speculating that in Anna's spinoff she will first be on the run (maybe encountering "fluffers"), and then the second part will be her attempt at survival in jail. Here's hoping.

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Rufus wrote:
Boy meets girl.
Boy takes a real dislike to Girl,
Girl goes out of her way to insult and demean Boy.
Boy kidnaps and tortures Girl.
Girl mutilates, murders and burns house down around Boy.

Love stories should be written about that :lol:


:lol: You already got a great poem right there.


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(Kudos to E for not listening to them btw).


Why?

This is a strange attitude, and you're not the only one who said it. There is nothing inherently admirable about not giving fans what they want. Nothing.

There was a tv series where the fans really liked one supporting character. The showrunner got tired of hearing people asking to see more of him. He said in an interview that if people don't stop asking to see more of the character, he would kill the character off. He did. He killed the character off to spite the character's fans. The character's death didn't serve the story in any way. The showrunner believed that punishing the audience was good storytelling. He was an idiot.

With Anna, even before BG7, there had been a huge amount of buildup. And the payoff was minimal. This goes back to Aristotle on storytelling: a story is centered on conflict, which engages the emotions, and the conflict builds until its resolution at the climax. However it is resolved, whether the protagonist succeeds or fails, there is catharsis -- emotional release. This is the profound moment of storytelling. With Anna, there had already been too much buildup before BG7, for the amount of catharsis. All in all, in BG7 and 8, there were four or five frames that showed Steve on top. The vast majority of it was off-stage, off-screen, suggested and implied. There was very little catharsis.

Erenisch pulled the camera away every time, which is just bad storytelling. Steve's revenge on Anna deserved an entire comic of its own. Instead we were given hints and the camera cut away before it got good.

And then Anna got her "vengeance."

In the most predictable, cliched manner.

Following the lead of practically every series in the Fansadox collection.

I had thought better of Erenisch. The justifications around here are astounding to me. There is nothing admirable in being uncomfortable with focusing on Steve's revenge. There is nothing innately positive about refusing to give the audience what they want. There is nothing praiseworthy in making the same choices everyone else has made.


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In the most predictable, cliched manner.


I respectfully disagree.


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Erenisch pulled the camera away every time, which is just bad storytelling. Steve's revenge on Anna deserved an entire comic of its own. Instead we were given hints and the camera cut away before it got good.

This is how I look at it:

Erenisch doesn't do just BDSM porn, (s)he's describing (BDSM) relationships and how both the relationship and the persons involved evolve over time. Maggie/Peter, Sherry/Paul, Yummycunt and her former boss, Frankie Steinn's ordeal... IMHO, it's never just about showing men whipping and r@ping women.

If you keep that in mind, there's a problem with the Steve/Anna relationship: It can't go anywhere, unless you're willing to sacrifice the Anna character. They feel nothing but contempt for each other, and neither one of them would ever give in unless being forced to. A whole comic about them would just be a long series of torture and r@pe scenes, with Anna occasionally mocking Steve and Steve threatening to do even more evil things to her. It would go on like that forever - or until Anna breaks. The latter would take away Anna's only redeeming feature and would turn her into a totally boring, empty shell.

Face it, Steve was nothing but a plot device, he was required to separate Anna from Peter. That was neccessary for the Maggie/Peter relationship to reach the next level, and the way it ended is a great start for dedicated Anna comic.


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someoneelse wrote:
samantha wrote:
(Kudos to E for not listening to them btw).



With Anna, even before BG7, there had been a huge amount of buildup. And the payoff was minimal. This goes back to Aristotle on storytelling: a story is centered on conflict, which engages the emotions, and the conflict builds until its resolution at the climax. However it is resolved, whether the protagonist succeeds or fails, there is catharsis -- emotional release. This is the profound moment of storytelling. With Anna, there had already been too much buildup before BG7, for the amount of catharsis. All in all, in BG7 and 8, there were four or five frames that showed Steve on top. The vast majority of it was off-stage, off-screen, suggested and implied. There was very little catharsis.

Erenisch pulled the camera away every time, which is just bad storytelling. Steve's revenge on Anna deserved an entire comic of its own. Instead we were given hints and the camera cut away before it got good.

And then Anna got her "vengeance."

In the most predictable, cliched manner.

Following the lead of practically every series in the Fansadox collection.

I had thought better of Erenisch. The justifications around here are astounding to me. There is nothing admirable in being uncomfortable with focusing on Steve's revenge. There is nothing innately positive about refusing to give the audience what they want. There is nothing praiseworthy in making the same choices everyone else has made.


Well, no author is going to please all of the fans all of the time, nor should they. For example, the fans of the show "Friends" wanted Ross and Rachel to be together, but if they writers had written them with a perfect happy relationship, then the story would have gotten boring. A writer should put the story first. On the other hand, if the writers had never had Ross and Rachel get together, that would be boring too. No story can go on forever, the characters must change, eventually, you have to pull the trigger and give some catharsis, one way or another.

I do agree with you though. We got very little emotional release from the Anna story line. There was no catharis, no pay off. The story seems to be getting monotonous, its basically "no matter what you throw at her, Anna always comes out on top." Thats the story, again and again. For me, the important thing is not the physical torture, but the characters breaking, psychologically. I like to see their personalities strain and give way under the pressure, that is the emotional release. Anna never did that. Not even a little bit. We got to see very little of her down on her luck, before she was back on top again. I wanted to see some FEAR in her. I wanted to see some despair, not this "impossibly strong, impossibly smart, superhero, feminist icon" kind of thing. The whole thing was just very unsatisfying, not to mention unrealistic. She seems less and less like a real person and more like an action movie hero.

Somebody else (not to be confused with Someoneelse, lol) said they have no problem with a female character wining short term victories, but I say again, a death is not a "short term" victory. Death is permanent. Its true that tension is what makes a story interesting, so I can see maybe what E was going for with this ending, building more tension around Anna. But you can't build forever. I feel that maybe the perfect moment to pull the trigger and release all that dramatic tension has already passed.

UPDATE: I went back, I see it was Rufus who said they don't mind females winning short term victories. I agree with u in principle, it is more fun to defeat a worthy opponent than to win easily. But I am a perverted male-chauvenist pig, I want the men to always win in the end, that is why I buy these in the first place.


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TerminalWanderer wrote:

If you keep that in mind, there's a problem with the Steve/Anna relationship: It can't go anywhere, unless you're willing to sacrifice the Anna character. They feel nothing but contempt for each other, and neither one of them would ever give in unless being forced to. A whole comic about them would just be a long series of torture and r@pe scenes, with Anna occasionally mocking Steve and Steve threatening to do even more evil things to her. It would go on like that forever - or until Anna breaks.


Thats the whole point! As Morgan Freeman said in "the Shawshank Redemption" "All men have their breaking point" (women too). I think that if Anna is forever tortured but never breaks, THAT is what would be boring. It is more interesting to chart the decline of strong personality, watch her sink a little bit, an inch at a time, until she is a totally different person. The breaking is what makes it fun. :-)


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Well I'm always pleasantly surprised by E's stories, twists and character developments. They are always smooth. So I'm sure that I will be satisfied with whatever happens to Anna in her spinoff.


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All I know was that before BG9 I didn't want nothing to do with a Anna spinoff. I don't care about or for the character.

However, now I'm mildly interested in her story. That's only because Cathy is in it.

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Personally, I like surprises. And it doesn't bother me to see a girl or two come out on top in an imaginary society where the odds are so against such an outcome.

Overall, however, I'm inclined to avoid sex fiction where anyone dies. Sex and torture, no problem. Sex and death, a bit too serious.

That said, if ever a character seemed to need killing, E picked the right one. Never liked him and won't miss him.

And I do find Anna interesting. I'm sure she's due some wicked karma in return for the pleasure of her vengeance, but in some respects, I find her admirable and hope she doesn't come to a bad end.


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With this choice, Erenisch didn't diverge from other Fansadox artists; he followed their lead. Anna's twists ARE the predictable formula. It IS the checklist.

Predondo's Harem Horror series is ostensibly male-dom. But as it develops, a female character is introduced, Ms. Jazmin, who is as dominant and sadistic as any of the male characters, but more powerful by means of her beauty. She is cleverer, more strong-willed, and more sexually aggressive than any of the males. She enjoys teasing men with her gorgeous body. It's male-dom except for one woman who is supreme over all.

Fernando's Confiscated Twins series is ostensibly male-dom. But as it develops, a female character is introduced, Amanda, who is as dominant and sadistic as any of the male characters, but more powerful by means of her beauty. She is cleverer, more strong-willed, and more sexually aggressive than any of the males. She enjoys teasing men with her gorgeous body. It's male-dom except for one woman who is supreme over all.

Moffett's Martian series is ostensibly male-dom. But a female character is introduced, Colonel Wasp, who is as dominant and sadistic as any of the male characters, but more powerful by means of her beauty. She is cleverer, more strong-willed, and more sexually aggressive than any of the males. She enjoys teasing men with her gorgeous body. It's male-dom except for one woman who is supreme over all.

Bored yet? I am.

I find it interesting that you put all these examples and say that Erenisch follows them.

The comic Anna was introduced as a dom female character is the Birthday Gift 5, which was number 221, released in February 2010. Just go back see in what order the comics you have listed came out, and you will realize who is following who.

I'm not foollshly suggesting that a dom female is something never seen in a male-dom BDSM comic of course. It is an overused cliche. but the examples you have provided amused me a little. :D

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I agree of course,

another axiom: Given enough time, every Fansadox artist will eventually do something Erenisch have already done a while ago ;)

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Well none of the others maybe but Anna did.

Again, it is original and so not boring that she clawed her way back up. I hate the cliche strong woman character in most DOF comics (especially the fat-ugly-old ones in Templeton stories) but I love well-developed characters like Anna. Unlike the the cliche versions, she is not simply a tertiary character who whips and humiliates the main victim while the male character is catching his breath. She is a real character and has believable, real feelings, thoughts and dialogues.


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MrGoodPecker wrote:
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With this choice, Erenisch didn't diverge from other Fansadox artists; he followed their lead. Anna's twists ARE the predictable formula. It IS the checklist.

Predondo's Harem Horror series is ostensibly male-dom. But as it develops, a female character is introduced, Ms. Jazmin, who is as dominant and sadistic as any of the male characters, but more powerful by means of her beauty. She is cleverer, more strong-willed, and more sexually aggressive than any of the males. She enjoys teasing men with her gorgeous body. It's male-dom except for one woman who is supreme over all.

Fernando's Confiscated Twins series is ostensibly male-dom. But as it develops, a female character is introduced, Amanda, who is as dominant and sadistic as any of the male characters, but more powerful by means of her beauty. She is cleverer, more strong-willed, and more sexually aggressive than any of the males. She enjoys teasing men with her gorgeous body. It's male-dom except for one woman who is supreme over all.

Moffett's Martian series is ostensibly male-dom. But a female character is introduced, Colonel Wasp, who is as dominant and sadistic as any of the male characters, but more powerful by means of her beauty. She is cleverer, more strong-willed, and more sexually aggressive than any of the males. She enjoys teasing men with her gorgeous body. It's male-dom except for one woman who is supreme over all.

Bored yet? I am.

I find it interesting that you put all these examples and say that Erenisch follows them.

The comic Anna was introduced as a dom female character is the Birthday Gift 5, which was number 221, released in February 2010. Just go back see in what order the comics you have listed came out, and you will realize who is following who.

I'm not foollshly suggesting that a dom female is something never seen in a male-dom BDSM comic of course. It is an overused cliche. but the examples you have provided amused me a little. :D

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I agree of course,

another axiom: Given enough time, every Fansadox artist will eventually do something Erenisch have already done a while ago ;)

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None of the other characters have fallen from their pedestals, and I profoundly doubt any of them ever will.

Well none of the others maybe but Anna did.

Again, it is original and so not boring that she clawed her way back up. I hate the cliche strong woman character in most DOF comics (especially the fat-ugly-old ones in Templeton stories) but I love well-developed characters like Anna. Unlike the the cliche versions, she is not simply a tertiary character who whips and humiliates the main victim while the male character is catching his breath. She is a real character and has believable, real feelings, thoughts and dialogues.


Mr Goodpecker, I dislike Anna and the ending of BG 9, but in the spirit of fairness, I must say... that is a very well thought out argument. kudos


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