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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:45 am 
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While I was working on the script for the BG finale I went back and reviewed BG1, BOTH my original AND the Dofantasy version. There are minor changes almost in every panel, a lot of misleading, out-of-character additions, some of which completely ruin the story.

So I decided to set the record straight before the grand finale. I will skip minor edits and list very very very bad ones.


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First, they change the name of the comic from Birthday Gift to Birthday Present, which is pointless as the cover remains unchanged...

Then the intro text changes to "in the year 2022", which misleads people to think the events occur in 2022, while it is in fact 2037.

p8) First major change was made on page 8. See how it changes the tone of the comic and the character:
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In my original story Peter is still not a compete asshole. He sees Maggie as an Angel. The editor at Dofantasy thinks that I was too soft, so adds another thought bubble and turns Peter into a disgusting toad right away. This ruins my tempo, because Peter was supposed to gradually turn into an asshole as the story progressed.

p9) Similar additions occur in the next page. Again Peter's thoughts are "innocent" (admiring her swan like neck) in my original version, while Dofantasy additions make him look like a raging pervert.

p14) Here the editor gives Polly and Sally thought bubbles, which ruins my character building. Polly and Sally are supposed to be totally obedient and accepting their fate. They are not supposed to have rebellious thoughts.

(Also, the editor cannot spell "puke")

p16) The editor makes Peter say "I thought it was a car!". There is no such line in my version. It should be obvious, obviously.
Then another line was added to the bottom-right corner. Peter does not say anything there. Totally out of character and makes no sense.

p18) Half the things Peter say on page 18 is made up. The other half is modified to sound more brutal.

p19) They gave Maggie a thought bubble at the end. No reason for that at all. By the way, you can easily spot most of the fake thought bubbles in this comic. They look like this one, while the ones I do look like the one in the top panel.

p23) In the last panel Peter asks Maggie to call him "fuck-master", which is an invention of the editor. I never used that term.

p24) This one is a very big one. As you can see, Peter foreshadows a major plot point in my original script talking about the reward for obedience, but the Dofantasy version replaces it with a nonsensical out-of-character threat.
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From that point on, during the school scenes, there are no major edits and additions, probably because now Peter's gradual transformation into a disgusting pervert finally caught up with the Dofantasy standards. Or maybe I put so many speech bubbles in there, they were not able to deal with the overwhelming amount of text :)

p40) Finally, another major addition that ruins my story. At the bottom Quinn talks about his intentions to buy Cathy. This is totally made up.

p43) Another made up line, this time for Peter on the bottom-left corner. Doesn't change the story much, but still... You can see the bubble is a rectangle. All rectangular speech and thought balloons in this comic are editor's fantasies, not mine.

p44) Another rectangular bubble at the top, made up.


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There you go. Many of you wanted me to release a "director's cut" version, but that is too much work for me. I hope this little review will clear up some misunderstandings. By the way, this is nothing compared to Family Slave Set, which was heavily altered to the point I can no longer recognize chunks of the dialogue. You can call that one non-canonical until I do a correction for that story.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:58 am 
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Wow, those really are some major changes. The whole psychedelic dream sequence fits so much better in the story in your original version.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:52 am 
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WOW! I didn't really they changed so much stuff in your comics. Thanks for sharing this E very interesting stuff!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:12 am 
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Oh man, too bad they edited E's work like that... The original it's heaps more interesting and riveting as far as I'm concerned.
I love the intimacy the couple would have had since the very start, it makes much more sense with the later turnover of events and change of their relationship.

Do your current jobs undertake such a treatment?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:24 pm 
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As the editor who did many of the later works, I tried very, very hard to avoid making those kinds of mistakes.

I have been trying to tell dofantasy that the stories do NOT take place in 2022 for years. Literally for years, I have been trying to make them stop doing that.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:26 pm 
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Rhamses wrote:
Oh man, too bad they edited E's work like that... The original it's heaps more interesting and riveting as far as I'm concerned.
I love the intimacy the couple would have had since the very start, it makes much more sense with the later turnover of events and change of their relationship.

Do your current jobs undertake such a treatment?


I started doing the editing work around "the Hotel" ever since I got on board, I have tried to be true to E's vision, and to involve in in the process as much as possible, in those times when small changes are un-avoidable. Unfortunately, dofantasy did not send me the most recent one, but they have said they'll send them to me again in the future.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:01 am 
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Rhamses wrote:
Do your current jobs undertake such a treatment?

Not lately. My first 4-5 comics were altered to varying degrees. They stopped when I noticed it and complained.

( The latest big change was in "The Society", but that was a result of simple miscommunication. I asked Nuria to review a Spanish sentence I put in there (her native tongue), but she misunderstood and changed it to something else entirely. See here)


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*Wonders if I should worry when my content goes online...*

I create a backstory for each image I submit... it's fairly loose but still, I wonder how much they might deviate...

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Character development in porn? Whoever heard of such rot??

Oh yeah....those of us who don't need to see wall-to-wall gonzo sex in every panel to enjoy the story...

Makes me glad I was not successful when I tried to submit to Nuria years ago...I hope Bego's better at it.


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question i have is what changed peter into being an asshole? It can't be anything that Maggie did to changed Peter. She only questioned on what was expected of her and obeyed Peter completely.

Were there any changes in BG3?

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dougeee wrote:
question i have is what changed peter into being an asshole? It can't be anything that Maggie did to changed Peter. She only questioned on what was expected of her and obeyed Peter completely.

Were there any changes in BG3?


Unfettered access to the girl of his dreams to do anything he wants to? That would bring the asshole out in most men. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:35 pm 
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Rufus wrote:
dougeee wrote:
question i have is what changed peter into being an asshole? It can't be anything that Maggie did to changed Peter. She only questioned on what was expected of her and obeyed Peter completely.

Were there any changes in BG3?


Unfettered access to the girl of his dreams to do anything he wants to? That would bring the asshole out in most men. :lol:

Exactly. It s not that Peter was not an asshole at the beginning. He just didn't have the opportunity. I should have phrased it as "yet to tap to his full potential of assholery."


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is it speech balloon or speech bubble?


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otherguy wrote:
Rhamses wrote:
Oh man, too bad they edited E's work like that... The original it's heaps more interesting and riveting as far as I'm concerned.
I love the intimacy the couple would have had since the very start, it makes much more sense with the later turnover of events and change of their relationship.

Do your current jobs undertake such a treatment?


I started doing the editing work around "the Hotel" ever since I got on board, I have tried to be true to E's vision, and to involve in in the process as much as possible, in those times when small changes are un-avoidable. Unfortunately, dofantasy did not send me the most recent one, but they have said they'll send them to me again in the future.


You'll be probably happy to know that I deem E's artwork have dramatically improved pretty much from that issue... ;)
Although starting from BF6 and 7 I could feel improvements compared to the beginnings (mainly because I enjoyed the hot sex scenes in those, especially Maggie's birthday party :twisted: ), definitively from BF 8 and the Hotel we can see all the psychological introspection we missed in the early releases!
Psychological introspection turns me on! Keep on with the good job!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:10 pm 
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Thanks for this post. I always thought that it was strange for Peter to call Maggie a bitch in BG1 when he seems to love her. Now that makes sense.

I hope BG finale will have some Carol action. :carol:

Actually, I don't want BG to come to an end, it's my favorite series. :'( Hopefully we'll have a lot of spin offs (dedicated to Maggie, Peter and Carol).


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