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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:45 pm 
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My dear fellow sickos and sickettes, I have a question for you.

What is your opinion on shorter stories, say half or third of what you get usually? I'm playing with the idea of releasing "minibooks" with about 15-20 pages but I'm not sure if 1) people would buy them, 2) fansadox would agree to sell them.

When I'm done with a comic, I'm always left with a bunch of good scenes/ideas cut out of the story. Many times I use the cut scenes in a sequel or an entirely different comic, but often they wait for a long time. They can be turned into shorter comics easily, but marketability is a problem. Let me know what you think, and based on what you say I'll go to the people at fansadox with the idea.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:27 pm 
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Depends on the three things, as far as I'm concerned:

  • price.
  • frequency (might be a nice gimmick, not sure yet if the appeal lasts - probably depends a lot on the next point)
  • type of content. You have comics focussed more on actual BDSM scenes than on storytelling/character development. While I still love these, I prefer the other kind you publish (BDSM soap opera ftw!). I'm assuming storytelling would have to take a backseat for "minibooks", so depending on the quality of the artwork... sorry, just kidding ;) But I'm just not sure I would buy each copy of a bimonthly minibook in Fernando style, even if it's from you.

Is Fansadox your only option for publishing? I can't imagine there's no other outlet selling BDSM ebooks.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Intriguing idea. I agree with Terminal Wanderer about the factors weighing upon the decision but have no doubts that there would still be more story than action purely for it's own sake. It would be great to get extra stuff -and see what we have been missing out on. So depending on cost and the nod from Nuria and co, I would give the idea a thumbs up.

As to whether Fansadox like it well there is only one way to find out isn't there?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:26 pm 
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How about this:

1) Create collections of shorts with what you can make stories out of (2 or more);

2) Make "cutting room floor" collections that can't be integrated with stories;

3) And finally, art collections for anything that doesn't fit either of the above, or individual pieces like the treats you post here.

2 and 3 could also have descriptions and "commentaries" about the pieces and how they would have fit in or other trivia of interest.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:27 pm 
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I would not say no to shorter comics... or longer ones for that matter. You have some of the best art/story in bdsm comics I have ever seen. As for marketability... I think you have a loyal fan base. I don't know how many of each comic you normally sell, but I think most of your fans would buy whatever you published so long as the quality was the same.

I would assume that the shorter comics would be more action and less on the story, but I could be wrong.

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I agree that there would definitely be interest in more E; based on customer loyalty if nothing else. You've built quite a solid following as far as I can tell.

I can't believe that you would be capable of putting out product that would be inferior! Even if there is a lighter touch on the story and heavier on the 'scenes' that wouldn't be an overall bad thing (there's plenty of story even in Slave Fair which is really just a series of vignettes...).

The only thing I can see is that either price or length might sour Fansadox on the idea. But that could be solved by putting out double issues. Two fifteen to twenty page stories of awesome Erenisch even if they aren't directly connected could be fun! Then you could charge the full price for each issue without the 'mini-comic' problem.

And we'd all get more stories. I hate to think I'm missing out on something...



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i'd buy


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:16 am 
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How about a full length book (46-50 pages) organized as a collection of incomplete episodes? A monthly or bi-monthly "EC Magazine" with several stories? That would not really make my life easier, but it would give you guys a wider range of stories at the same time.


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I find it interesting, it could serve to deepen the story of some secondary characters, popular with readers. As Brandy, Sylvia, Cathy or Mandy "Slave fair", I always ask, the before and after his enslavement.

Even where the course of Brandy, to become head cheerleader, she had to do things that would be interesting to tell, in one scene we see her in "Birthday Gift 7", she gets by members of athletic teams, and they say themselves: "Brandy Come on, show me why you are called the "head cheerleader".

This is the secondary character I would most like to know the history!


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Erenisch wrote:
How about a full length book (46-50 pages) organized as a collection of incomplete episodes? A monthly or bi-monthly "EC Magazine" with several stories? That would not really make my life easier, but it would give you guys a wider range of stories at the same time.

Well, I don't want you to kill yourself keeping up with a hectic pace like that, but as a filler item when you have a flash of inspiration (and the time) it sounds like a good idea. :D


(anything that get's more of your work in the world is a good thing)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:59 am 
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I would go for a full comic with 2 to 4 short stories. 4 stories would be about 10 pages a story. plenty of pages to tell a story. However, if it means less of the full comics I vote no.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:06 am 
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An ECU Magazine?

Great for me but bad for my credit card :D


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vignettes?

i'd be happy with collections of single frames if each one had a caption to describe or sum up what was going on!

i love your work and frequently beg for each new episode.

(i love Anna but i think i'm probably more like maggie...)


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I think it depends on how it is presented. Simply having girls in poses isn't that hot, but framing it in a way we care and can sense the trepidation makes it worthwhile. In that case a 1-page comics could work.

Let's say we join Fuckfilly - Lea Marie - again, and hear her thoughts about her struggling against losing her mind and not getting caught up in being a whorsie. And then a quick shot of Miss Yummycunt, who's learnt to lick her own crotch by doing lots of puppy yoga.

Maybe a short comic on how slave girls stay in shape. They'd need to spend tons of time on it.


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All good ideas from bound2serve and mehmeh. I personally will buy anything E makes so my opininon is worthless here :D But a erenischverse magazine sounds very interesting. you can also give us trivias and commentaries like a DVD extra disk.

Also I think if you do single pages like some of the artists in bdsmartwork.com, you can do the extra-detailed pictures like you use on the covers.


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mehmeh wrote:
I Let's say we join Fuckfilly - Lea Marie - again, and hear her thoughts about her struggling against losing her mind and not getting caught up in being a whorsie. And then a quick shot of Miss Yummycunt, who's learnt to lick her own crotch by doing lots of puppy yoga.

Maybe a short comic on how slave girls stay in shape. They'd need to spend tons of time on it.


I agree with the idea of revisiting old friends and am intrigued by just how the slaves do stay fit. Clearly they are worked hard and can in no way be said to be over fed but I guess that slave feed must be very nutritious if nor nice to look look at, smell or eat. Slave yoga is a fascinating possibility, Perhaps we should devise a series of suitably degrading fitness exercises?


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Erenisch wrote:
How about a full length book (46-50 pages) organized as a collection of incomplete episodes? A monthly or bi-monthly "EC Magazine" with several stories? That would not really make my life easier, but it would give you guys a wider range of stories at the same time.

That's a better idea!


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I think the short format is a great idea and might even work without bundling them into a collection if the price and frequency were attractive. It might be awkward within the Fansadox system where there's something like a flat price across all titles but if you look things like the app store , people seem to find it easier to make lots of smaller purchases spread out than in bigger lumps.


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Erenisch wrote:
How about a full length book (46-50 pages) organized as a collection of incomplete episodes? A monthly or bi-monthly "EC Magazine" with several stories? That would not really make my life easier, but it would give you guys a wider range of stories at the same time.


That sounds like a good idea. Then you could put in "one shots" of ideas that spring to life as well. I'm wure you've got loads of those. As mentioned before, a text setting the scene will do fine, then you wouldn't have to draw the context panels - and the reader who like to make up his or hers own setting can do that.

I don't think you'd have to make them in a set time schedule, do them when you have enough material.

You could ad in some additional extras like: "interview views" with your characters, fan requests, images from stories on the forum that you like/get inpired by with a text refereing to the forum, thus marketing this forum as well as honouring the writer.

There's lots of erniverse stuff to publish as well, thae law, the collars, the map etc etc

Some edited Q/A to the artist could well be added.

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Absolutely for the idea of mini-books. Not every idea will fit every format, and if that means more regular erenish, I'm all for it.


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